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Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:16 am
by chiisu81
The Basic Fantasy Field Guide, Release 32 -- May 15, 2019: James Lemon has provided this revised copy of the original Field Guide. It's not ready to print yet, as we still have to finish the monster index in the back.

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:19 am
by chiisu81
Note that we're leaning to having the Monster Index remain a separate document, hopefully coming to a Downloads page near you soon.
https://basicfantasy.org/showcase.cgi?sid=128

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:07 pm
by Dimirag
Page 5: A Chimpanzee should be A Chimpanzee
Page 6: Gigantopithecus should be Gigantopithecus
Page 7: The winged ape pic cuts the last part of the text, also, should the text be change into plural? (there are other monsters described in a singular rather than plural)
Page 9: A Barghest -> A Barghest
Page 12: A Greater Blade Spirit -> A Greater Blade Spirit
Page 23: A delver -> A Delver
Page 24: Derej pit creatures -> Derej Pit Creatures

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:42 pm
by Solomoriah
Chi, I'm working on FG1 right now, so don't start any revisions. I'll apply Dimirag's changes as I go.

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:41 pm
by Solomoriah
... okay, uploading R33 now. I think I got all of Dimirag's suggestions taken care of, and I've hammered on the layout too. A few pieces of art got smaller, but more artwork got bigger, and I think the layout is darn near print-ready.

OH... and I discovered that an important bit of the general Nazgorean descriptive text was MISSING. So I put it in. It's a new version of what I originally wrote for Lost Pyramid.

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:32 am
by SmootRK
Solomoriah wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 7:41 pm
OH... and I discovered that an important bit of the general Nazgorean descriptive text was MISSING. So I put it in. It's a new version of what I originally wrote for Lost Pyramid.
I see the new text (new to me anyhow, noted that you had this in your adventure material) about magic for Nazgoreans. This complicates or at least means some new explanation might be needed for the FG2 entry for Nazgorean, Nehnite. It is noted as "different" but might need something extra to clarify.

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
by Dimirag
Page 9: Should the Behir name be moved to the next page?
Page 49: A Common Monkeys -> A Common Monkey
Page 52: Necrotic Ooz -> Necrotic Ooze
Page 57: The creature humorously called a Prince Frog -> The creature humorously called Prince Frog
Page 63: A Seat Cat -> A Sea Cat

Not Sure if the following monster's name should change
Bronze Bird -> Bird, Bronze
Death Dragon -> Dragon, Death
Desert Worm -> Worm, Desert
Flying Man-Of-War -> Man-Of-War, Flying
Frost Worm -> Worm, Frost
Komodo Dragon -> Dragon, Komodo
Necrotic Ooze -> Ooze, Necrotic
Octopus Fungi -> Fungi, Octopus (can be changed into Fungus, to make it singular)
Phantom Fungus -> Fungus, Phantom
Phase Spider -> Spider, Phase
Plague Hound -> Hound, Plague
Prince Frog -> Frog, Prince
Rabbit Prince -> Should be Prince Rabbit? -> changed into Rabbit, Prince
Rat Dog -> Rat-Dog? Ratdog?
Red Slime -> Slime, Red
Rot Vulture -> Vulture, Rot
Sea Cat -> Cat, Sea
Sea Hag -> Hag, Sea
Shocker Lizard -> Lizard, Shocker
Steel Spider -> Spider, Steel
Terror Bird -> Bird, Terror
Violet Fungus -> Fungus, Violet

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:46 pm
by Solomoriah
Dimirag wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
Page 9: Should the Behir name be moved to the next page?
That's a flow error. Dang. Thought I got all of them.
Dimirag wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
Page 49: A Common Monkeys -> A Common Monkey
Page 52: Necrotic Ooz -> Necrotic Ooze
Page 63: A Seat Cat -> A Sea Cat
Good catches.
Dimirag wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
Page 57: The creature humorously called a Prince Frog -> The creature humorously called Prince Frog
No, this is correct as is. The revised version makes it sound as if there is just one Prince Frog; in fact, this is the name of the species.
Dimirag wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
Not Sure if the following monster's name should change
Bronze Bird -> Bird, Bronze
Death Dragon -> Dragon, Death
Desert Worm -> Worm, Desert
Flying Man-Of-War -> Man-Of-War, Flying
Frost Worm -> Worm, Frost
Komodo Dragon -> Dragon, Komodo
Necrotic Ooze -> Ooze, Necrotic
Octopus Fungi -> Fungi, Octopus (can be changed into Fungus, to make it singular)
Phantom Fungus -> Fungus, Phantom
Phase Spider -> Spider, Phase
Plague Hound -> Hound, Plague
Prince Frog -> Frog, Prince
Rat Dog -> Rat-Dog? Ratdog?
Red Slime -> Slime, Red
Rot Vulture -> Vulture, Rot
Sea Cat -> Cat, Sea
Sea Hag -> Hag, Sea
Shocker Lizard -> Lizard, Shocker
Steel Spider -> Spider, Steel
Terror Bird -> Bird, Terror
Violet Fungus -> Fungus, Violet
All of these are correct as is. Obsessively breaking every type of monster down by category is unnecessary, and makes the book overly formal and a bit harder to use.
Dimirag wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:59 am
Rabbit Prince -> Should be Prince Rabbit? -> changed into Rabbit, Prince
No, this is also correct as is. This actually is a singular creature, properly called the Rabbit Prince.

I've applied your revisions as indicated to my R34; I'm assuming Chi hasn't started on it yet, so I'll probably upload the new one today.

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:49 pm
by Dimirag
Solomoriah wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 12:46 pm
All of these are correct as is. Obsessively breaking every type of monster down by category is unnecessary, and makes the book overly formal and a bit harder to use.
I think some may be necessary as to keep the monsters order more streamline this being the cases of the spiders, fungus and bird, the book already have some "spider, x" entries, but the phase and steel spiders are out of sinc. and the book contains more than one kind of fungus and bird, why not group them together?

Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide 1

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 2:30 pm
by Solomoriah
Categories having only one member in the book really don't need to be grouped together. I'll think about the spiders though... they may properly belong together.