Basic Fantasy Field Guide Volume 2

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Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide Volume 2

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Solomoriah wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:26 pm Boggo has a point. Domestic cats are one thing, but yeah, any wild animal that has made its way into EE should be brought over to the 4E FG.

I'll look at it tonight since I'm going to start a flow pass on that book.
this is ultimate edge case, but I have actually been in a game where a first level thief trying his hand at burglary was killed by a house cat (we forever afterwards called that game Angus' silly game (Angus being the GM))

though to my way of looking at it, why do we need game stats for something that the pc's arent facing the prospect of battling? does having domestic cat stats actually serve a purpose?
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Monsters starting with Q
p. 70

The Quizmaster

OK - not in the SRD
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Monsters starting with P
pp. 67-69

Pangotherium

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Conjuration and Summoning spells

Paper Tiger

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Sleep, Charm, Hold, ESP and Fireball spells

Phoenix

OK - not in the SRD; Reference to Hold Monster, Fireball, Wish, Raise Dead and Heal spells

Pipe Beast

OK - not in the SRD
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Monsters starting with O
pp. 65-67

Octobat

OK - not in the SRD; Reference to Web spell

Octopeople

OK - not in the SRD; Reference to True Seeing and Polymorph spells

Ogre, Bog

OK - not in the SRD

Orog

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Darkvision - can't remember what was decided about this terminology, although I'm pretty sure it's in the section of the 5e SRD that was just released under the CC license)

Owlbear, Northern

Reference to Owlbear, in name and text

Owlwolf

OK - not in the SRD
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Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide Volume 2

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Monsters starting with N
pp. 63-65

Nazgorean

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Sleep, Charm, Hold, ESP and Confusion/Confused spells

Nazgorean, Nehnite

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Charm, ESP, Fireball and Magic Missile spells

Norker

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Darkvision (see comment above)
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Monsters starting with M
pp. 60-63

Maggot Man

OK - not in the SRD; Reference to Cause Fear, Sleep, Charm and Hold spells; Reference to Rot Grub

Mink (and Giant)

OK - not in the SRD

Mithridatium Bush

OK - not in the SRD

Monk-ee

OK - not in the SRD

Moon Goblin

OK - not in the SRD; If combined with other monster books, should this be Goblin, Moon for consistency?

Moonlight Butterfly

OK - not in the SRD

Moonshiner

OK - not in the SRD
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Jim1804 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:54 pm Monsters starting with N
pp. 63-65

Norker

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Darkvision (see comment above)
Isn't the Norker a Fiend Folio original?
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Norker is indeed in 1e Fiend Folio, though I do not know if there are other references.

If necessary I would suggest Deep Hobgoblin or Hobgoblin, Deep... as that is essentially what they are. Otherwise they may need removal or a redesign from scratch. The idea that they are a subterranean goblinoid race may be too specific to TSR material.
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Re: Basic Fantasy Field Guide Volume 2

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Boggo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:06 pm
Jim1804 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:54 pm Monsters starting with N
pp. 63-65

Norker

OK - not in the SRD;Reference to Darkvision (see comment above)
Isn't the Norker a Fiend Folio original?
Good catch. I'm not very familiar with the 1e monsters.
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SmootRK wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:21 pm Norker is indeed in 1e Fiend Folio, though I do not know if there are other references.

If necessary I would suggest Deep Hobgoblin or Hobgoblin, Deep... as that is essentially what they are. Otherwise they may need removal or a redesign from scratch. The idea that they are a subterranean goblinoid race may be too specific to TSR material.
I did some research it's from the old White Dwarf Fiend Factory, nothing before that (Fiend Folio was a collection of monsters published in Fiend Factory) so it's definitely a D&D original, I like the name Deep Hobgoblin (entry would correctly be Hobgoblin, Deep) so that's where my vote goes, I think the subterranean aspect is ok as Goblins and such are mythologically quite often associated with living underground
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